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ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

Hi, I'm butting in!

How dare you two get so off topic! Very Happy

Just kidding. I just can't believe that you're talking about horror stuff and religion! Must chime in!

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has been into horror since a small child! I don't know anyone else (or didn't until now!) who has! As far as I can remember, I always loved spooky stuff. Loved Halloween (it became my favorite holiday, as opposed to second-fav., just as soon as I stopped believing in Santa!). I first read Stephen King (my fav. author. Or used to be. Like you, Vampy, I can't really get into his recent stuff. Except for his Dark Tower series and Green Mile series, his latter works have not really connected with me. Maybe when I get to the age he's at now, I can rediscover them. My fav. S.K. novel is "IT." I've actually read it at least 3 times, and it actually scared me all three times. The movie kinda sucked, though. As do most movies made from his books. The books are just so much better. The only exceptions I can think of are "Shawshank Redemption," which I think was better than the story, and "Green Mile.") when I was 8. Sorry about the long parenthesized bit! I didn't see many horror flicks as a small kid (although I did see "Halloween" when I was 6-ish. But, whoopdy-doo, it's not scary. Although the dude getting pinned to the wall with the knife kinda got me!), but did read spooky stuff. Today's horror movies don't really do it for me. I miss the 80s ones. They were more. . .graphic? Raw? Texturized (CGI doesn't cut it yet for creatures to me. It's getting there, though)? For instance, I much prefer old-school movie werewolves ("An American Werewolf in London," "The Howling") to what they do now (I'm sorry, Supernatural's werewolves sucked, in my opinion). I also like "Dog Soldiers" because of that. The Elm Street and Hellraiser movies are favorites. OH, get ready to laugh; embarrassing confession: I like the "Puppet Master" movies! LOL! Not really the whole movies per se, I just adore the freaky little puppets! I wish I had them! Er, replicas of them. You know what I meant!

One thing I don't like about horror movies, though: Stupid people. Especially women. Just once, I'd like to see a GOOD horror movie in which the people have at least normal intelligence! I'm so sick of the stupid women who know a monster/slasher is on the loose and are told to stay put until her dude friend/boyfriend gets back opening the door and going outside when they hear a little noise. ("Rick? Is that you?" SLICE!) And always tripping when they run. And, instead of jumping right back up and running, just lying there, looking backwards and screaming. Oh, and just STANDING THERE, screaming, while someone else is getting offed right beside them. Um, RUN, BITCH, RUN!! *SIIIIGH*

I confess, one horror movie has scared me. Laugh if you will, but "The Ring" freaked me out. I didn't think it was an over-all scary movie at all. In fact, it dragged a lot. But it had this way of gradually building this uncomfortable, creepy, something's-gonna-happen feel, and had three scenes that got me. When Samara crawled outta the TV? Forget it, I was freaked! Embarassed

Other horror movies haven't scared me, but they have entertained me. I'm much more a fan of ones with creatures and ghosts rather than slasher flicks (Friday 13th, Texas Chainsaw, etc.). Gore isn't scary to me

Sarah, on religion? Wow. You sound just like me! I very much respect other's beliefs, as well. I can't stand judgmental people who try to shove their beliefs or lack thereof on others, or who think that they're superior, somehow, because they do or don't believe something. That's so sad. I agree with you that religion causes a lot of troubles. If nothing else, it puts up walls. It gives people extra reasons to discriminate, be exclusive, judgmental, etc. Not to mention the ones who get fanatical and do unspeakable things in the name of religion. True, we humans are messed up and we'd have plenty of problems even without religion, but the religion just adds. But, the way I see it, this is a big, bad, confusing world and if anyone can find something that helps them through (as long as it isn't harming anyone or anything) they should feel free to have it. They have my blessing and encouragement. And, yes, some good has come from religion too, no doubt. It's just that, as far as I can tell, any good that has come from religion could've been accomplished without religion. And as far as the "do unto others bit," the way I see it, it should be "do unto others as *they* would like to have done unto them." Sometimes, something you like may not be what another person likes. I try to think what they would want. But that's just me being extra-picky, of course! Smile

I actually grew up Christian. Was very much a devoted, faithful believer for the first 20 years or so of life. But, hey, things change. Eyes get opened. Experiences are had. *shrug* My whole family is Christian, too. Love my family!

Vampy, are you kidding me? You have a fear for the bottoms of bodies of water too?! No way!! I actually don't think I could enjoy scuba diving because of that. I'll gladly swim in lakes, oceans, even ponds, but I don't want to see the bottom! I bet "Jaws" did that to me, though. I did see that movie too young. When I'm in the ocean, if seaweed brushes my feet/legs, I jump 2 feet in the air and I watch for dorsal fins in the oncoming waves!

I even feel a bit creeped out if I'm alone in a swimming pool at twilight, when shadows are dancing over the water! Yeah, that movie messed me up! Go ahead, laugh; I'm laughing too!

I can't believe anyone's really *scared* by Supernatural. It's properly, entertainingly spooky (and "Bloody Mary" creeped me out a bit, as it was so "The Ring-ish") but it's not SCARY.

Sarah, don't let your family give ya a hard time! And stop with the ugly stuff! Sheesh! (Even if you were the butt-ugliest person on Earth, which I doubt to the extreme, that wouldn't be a good excuse, anyway. I see hideously ugly couples all the time! Laughing

) Everyone finds someone in their own time. There's no time limit. My aunt didn't find someone until her 40's; they've been married for about a decade now! You should tell your family as much. And families shouldn't be so nosy and pushy! (But, Lord, I know they can be!) Now, some people are eternally alone (like me!) but we're very, very rare! (We should be on exhibit in carnivals or museums.) I can tell you're not one of us!

OK, if the boys did encounter a leprechaun (wouldn't they need to go to Ireland for that? That'd be cool. Wish they would do a foreign country ep.! Bet that'll never be in the budget, though. Too bad, cuz Ireland has banshees and stuff too, of course!), Dean would have to say "Always after me lucky charms" at some point. OR Sam would have to say, "Dean, I swear, if you say 'Always after me lucky charms,' I'm gonna punch you." Of course, then Dean could say, "No need, you just said it for me." Or something.

As to the Jensen orgasm quote, I just can't even. . . just. . . no comment. Man, is it getting hot in here?! Twisted Evil

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ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

As if I didn't give enough embarrassing confessions to give you a giggle in the last post, thought I'd tack on one more:

As I said, "The Ring" freaked me out. Well, the very next day after seeing it, it was cloudy/rainy/gloomy. And I was standing in the kitchen at one point, close to the basement door. And the TV down there. . . yep, snapped on all by itself, to a snowy channel. Yep. Sure did. And I was all alone. (That TV is old and does that in rainy weather. But I think it did it for the first time then.) I actually shoved my cat (Caramel, may he R.I.P. He was a tough, big bruiser of a cat) downstairs in front of me (while he let out a confused noise and looked back at me like, "What's your deal?!") when I went down to turn it off!! Laughing

So, yeah, I'm an awful chick who'd be willing to sacrifice her dearly beloved pet in order to buy time to save her own ass, apparently. Shame on me!! Evil or Very Mad

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"Decapitations aren't my idea of a good time, I guess." --Sammy, "Bloodlust"

VampySix · OUTTA PRACTICE Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 48

ExtraCookie, I can't stop laughing at your last post to make a reply. I'm crying -- literally -- at the visual of you pushing your cat ahead of you....

Okay, I had to take a moment to wipe my eyes. TOO FUNNY! I had forgotten about the Ring. Samara was really freaky crawling out of that tv. While the show still didn't scare me, and yes, it did drag a lot, I was totally unprepared for her to crawl out of that tv set. I was expecting something obviously by that point, but not THAT! What I remember doing is jumping to my feet and yelling at the tv, "oh, hell no!" And when Rachel (Naomi Watts) fell into that dark, watery well. That freaked the hell right out of me too, becasue, once again, it has dark water, darkness all around and you can't see below you!!!! It had me wanting to pull my own feet and legs to my chest to protect them. And you knew Samara was coming!!!!! If I could have helped her crawl out of that well any faster I would have. I was her own personal cheerleading squad, which is kind of scary since I never, ever would have demeaned myself enough to cheer in high school. That was too organized, too responsible and too much of the "in crowd" for me. I have friends who did cheer though, so I'm not knocking it. It just wasn't for me.

I get what both of you are saying about religion and I agree totally. Religion is way too judgmental. My father is so wrapped up in it after a lifetime of drug and alcohol abuse that he acts like it is now his mission to save the world. It drives me crazy. He is way too judgmental and I want to say "back off" or "just shut the fuck up". He turns me away from it, so I try to keep him off the topic. We were about to get off the phone one day and he said, "pray with me" and I felt myself cringe. I had no choice but to tell him I wasn't comfortable with that and maybe he'd just be better off praying for me afterward.

I have issues with the biblical principals telling us we shouldn't do certain things, when it seems they are innate to us. For instance, fornication is supposedly wrong, but yet we are sexual creatures. Not that I'm promoting sleeping with everyone and anyone. I just don't understand why it is a sin to have sex with someone outside of marriage (if you're unmarried and single). And oh, oh, I just love this one -- if you think it, then you've already committed the sin. (I paraphrased, of course, and I screwed it to hell and back). Shocked

But I only thought about it, so why is it a sin? Yeah, I can't buy that one. If that's the case, I've committed adultery 259 gazillion times since I got married. I've lusted at least triple that number and having a standing lust induced evening every Thursday during Supernatural.

So, while I do believe, I don't believe in the hardcore, strict religion. And I love having conversations with people, like you guys, about religion. I love the different takes, opinions, beliefs and ideas, because I don't believe the bible-toting soothsayer (like my father) has all the answers. Fundamentally, something doesn't ring true with it for me. Does that make sense?????

I kind of was worried about letting my children watch some of the stuff that I do, especially with the world's crazy violence these days. And then I thought, at least I was watching it with them and we were talking about it and discussing it and hopefully they would get that violence is not the answer. (Although, tell that to a duo of boys when they are pissed with each other. Fists always start flying first. It doesn't matter how much I say, "use your words" -- I might as well tell the cat and dog to use their words for all the good it does me because they'd rather beat each other up first and then use their words like "screw you" or "that'll teach you to screw with me". Of course, my youngest one is the more likely of the two to use actual profanity and did tell his 10 year old brother the other day that he was going to kick his ass. I had to get involved and, of course, that's a totally unrelated story.) My parents never discussed any of the horror shows with me. My mother would get me into the theater at 11 and 12 to watch horror shows and would come back and pick me up. So, sometimes I think it was a miracle I ended up as normal as I did. I was left on my own a lot while my mother partied, so I practically reared myself. So...........I took the long, wordy way of saying that it makes me feel better to know that others who've turned out good were also watching horror flicks during their impressionable youth. You know psychologists these days are saying all the violence they watch makes them more violent. Rolling Eyes

I agree with you ExtraCookie, gore doesn't do it for me. I like ghosts and werewolves and vampires -- all things supernatural related. I thought Freddie was great, but Jason was just stupid with a bunch of stupid women. Those stupid women drive me nuts. Please, do we really look and act stupid enough to run around half naked, falling down and then not have the brains to do nothing more than flop on our backs and scream until Jason machetted us to death. Confused

WTF? Women are not the helpless creatures horror movie portrays us as. And the sex scene where the couple always "gets it", please, that one is overdone. I think every Jason movie had the death-sex-scene in it. Rolling Eyes

I didn't read Shawshank Redemption or the Green Mile because by that point, King was starting to lose me. I thought both movies were great though. I've read all his Dark Tower books, too, except the very last one. I've got it, but haven't started reading on it yet. I have to get into a mental zone in order to read King. The Dark Tower books are probably my favorites, and then it would have to be the Shining and The Stand. The movie the Stand almost ruined it for me because of some of the differences.

I just heard about Dog Soldiers not too long ago, but haven't had a chance to rent it yet. I've heard it's really good and that the effects are good too.

My mom said when I watched Jaws, I was 4 or 5 when I saw it, she said I was scared to walk into the kitchen because I thought Jaws was going to come out of the kitchen sink and get me!!! LOL. The mind of a 5 year old. That movie must have really messed me up as a kid. I agree though, seaweed is NOT allowed to touch me without me freaking out. I don't even like those little fish that nip at you and swim by and touch you in the ocean. Logically, I know they aren't going to hurt me, but I can't see them and I don't know what they really are, so, hey, with the way shark attacks are getting these days, I don't take the chance. And besides, I don't like the way it feels. Gives me the creeps. My boys laugh at their wimpy mom marching her fanny out of the ocean because of it. I'm woman enough though that it doesn't bother me. Very Happy

I agree, Supernatural is not scary. Dead in the Water creeped me out because of the little boy in the water. Bloody Mary had it's creepy factor. I even thought Hookman was kind of creepy. I grew up on Hookman stories, so remembered how easily my older cousins scared me with his tales.

ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

Glad I could crack you up with my irrational terror and potential pet sacrifice! Very Happy

VampySix · OUTTA PRACTICE Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 48