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ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

Wow, I don't check in for a couple of days and people post left and right! Including a new poster! Let me see if I can address all this stuff (and, natch, it won't necessarily be in proper order. If I ever made a post where I addressed things in proper order, you'd all probably be concerned!)

First: Hi, Seetha! Welcome! Keep posting!

HotbloodedforDean, sorry you didn't like the episode. But glad you said so. Some people out there (not here, thank goodness) seem unwilling to ever say anything negative about the show and that's just unrealistic. I've mentioned eps. I didn't like (as far as Supernatural goes, anyway) and haven't even had much agreement, but that's OK. I'm not gonna lie and say I liked something when I didn't and neither should anyone else. Hopefully, next season will be more satisfying for ya. Smile

I'm kinda with Sarah on being spoiler-free. Usually being spoiled is fine with me, but there is at least one episode I can think of that I didn't read the spoilers for and I noticed it was more exciting for me. It's kind of six of one and half a dozen of the other for me; I mean, I sometimes forget most of the spoilers I read by the time the ep. rolls around, anyway.

OK, VampySix, let's see if I can begin to tackle this Sammy power stuff at all! As usual, this is a pretty instantaneous response. Which means I may re-read it later and realize I've said something moronic and have to try another reply! I never noticed any of the powerful kids being able to kill demons with a thought. Did I miss something? Miss Death Hands could kill people with a touch and Jake could physically control a person, but that's as close to that as I recall. And all the kids' powers were different. So far as we know, Sammy has premonitory dreams & visions and (even though he's only used it once that we know of) telekenisis. With the finale, something about him caused Lilith's powers to be nullified. We don't know what that's all about yet, though. So, I think hunting demons and anything else would still take effort.

And, as far as we know, John didn't know every last detail about Sammy's powers. All we know for sure he knew was that Sammy had powers and the demon wanted to use them. Remember, he asked Dean to save him if he could. That leads me to believe that he must have not known for sure if Sammy's powers were, indeed, just naturally evil or not. And, therefore, hoped he had a chance. So neither do we know, officially, if they're evil. Also, I don't see why his powers would have to be permanent or always accessible if they were. I mean they were dormant for months, right? Why? Maybe they can only be triggered at certain times under certain circumstances. (At least stuff outside of the visions. Both the telekenisis and the Lilith powers nullifying happened when he knew his brother was in deadly danger (wonder why they didn't kick in, then, when both his brother and dad were in danger?! Oh, cuz they couldn't be used on the being who made that blood bond/taint, maybe? Ooh!). Maybe that's the only trigger?) Or, perhaps, they can't last forever. Maybe it's like container full of something. There's only so much of it and when it's used up, it's gone for good.

If not; if those powers were permanent and always accessible and, certainly, if he did end up being able to kill demons with a thought, then, yes, I agree, that would be lame. I need my Winchesters at least mostly only capable of human powers and hunting the way we know and love, thank you very much! So, though I hate it, it looks like his powers are evil (at least it's heavily implied. They've never given us any obvious implication of the other scenario being possible. But that doesn't mean they couldn't surprise us, of course. Come on, Supernatural!! Surprise us!). Thusly, he can't use them always. Or at all. Or I don't know. I'm confused. If they ARE evil, what then? How can darling Sammy have/use evil powers?! That's just wrong. I don't get it. And, if they are indeed proven evil, then how can he keep them? There should surely be a way he can get rid of them, unless they want to have a new permanent storyline of him knowing he possesses evil powers and has to constantly struggle against using them. Which I think would suck.

Oh my GOD, that was so rambly! I hope you can at least get the gist of that! If not, tell me, and I'll try harder to be more clear! Sorry! Perhaps I can at least summarize it somewhat: Yes, I see what you're saying and, if that turns out to be true, indeed it would not work long term. I still hope that the powers are neutral (or yes, Sarah, even good. It's just that netural seems more logical to me) and he can use them as he sees fit. And that he either can't just use them whenever the hell he wants to or they go away after being used up to rescue Dean or something. But I doubt the show will grant my wish.

Yes, Sarah, I thought the same thing when Jensen maintained his death stare. Jared was SO heartbreaking at that point (his crying there all alone deserves an award. Sorry, Sarah!) it's amazing he kept still and kept the death stare. (Looked like at least one tear may've actually landed on him!) Perhaps that's where rehearsals come in handy!

I didn't know Jared had been getting awards. The ones you mention sounds like teenager awards, though. He's a bit younger than Jensen, so that probably explains that. Why Jensen's not getting awarded, I don't know. Jealousy? People blinded to what he's doing because he's on the CW? Man, that network isn't good enough to lick Supernatural's boots! Sad

Oh, and as to Sammy being "dark" in "Mystery Spot," he wasn't dark as in dark side. They didn't depict him as doing anything evil. He was, in fact, being heroic. He was just dark as in Serious. Enraged. Single-minded. Badass, etc. Like John. Just. Like. John. *SNIFFLE* Yes, I think it's pretty unanimous here, right? We can't bear John-like Sammy. Too painful. So, anyway, I don't see Sammy has having a "dark side" in an evil manner. Just in that John-ish, the-world-as-I-knew-it-has-been-stolen-from-me way. And he's always had traits in common with John, so I think a shell of himself is just what he was, pretty much. It's like only the John traits were left. I've got a lump in my throat right now.

And Sarah? You know you've probably started a SNFGU in-joke now with the "Bobby" thing, right? From now on, in any episode Bobby did some particularly Bobby-type stuff, we'll just be saying: "Bobby." The end. Laughing

Ya never know!

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Heidi19 · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:29 am Post subject:

I thought it was amazing i was crying lol Very Happy

But my thought are running around my head and making me insane..

Is Sam going to turn evil since he blocked lilliths power ?

And whats up with Dean hanging in these chains, is it hell ? Cool

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ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

You lisen here, Heidi! Sammy is NOT going to turn evil! OK, he may have to use some evil powers. But that won't make him evil. Sammy cannot be evil. He's a bitch sometimes (and Dean's a jerk) but he can't be evil.

Really, if they actually have Sammy doing truly evil things, I don't know if I can stick with the show. I'd probably be forced to watch it like people feel forced to rubberneck at a multiple-car pile-up, but I will be angry. I don't think they'll do that to us. They'd better not. No matter what happens, both guys better remain the guys we know and love at the core.

Did you enjoy how I wrote that in threat form? As if I have any power whatsover over the Supernatural people? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they're all quaking in their boots, now. They know not to mess with me. Wink

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tatis98 · OUTTA PRACTICE Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 23

Hi there,

it's the first time i'm posting about an episode but i usually read what you all write. I just saw the episode and I expected more for a finale but I liked it though didn't fall in love with it. Following what Heidi19 was asking, I'm thinking that if Sam was able to block Lilith powers, is really Dean in hell or is it just some kind of limbo so they leave the door open for him to come back? I hope that season 4 would come with better storylines. Probably it's just that they have to rush everything due to he writers stricke and we have lost a lo but the story was a bit to weak for what we have became accostumed to.

ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

Oh my, this is the cyber version of Croatoan (the actual event, not the Supernatural episode)! Where'd everyone go?!

Hope everyone's doing OK!

If anyone wants to blab with me about the new episode, come on in!

I thought it was awesome and I was continually intrigued and entertained (Wow, Dean crawling from the grave!! Awww, Bobby and Dean!! AWWWWW, Dean and Sammy!!, Heeey, that is one fine angel! Are we gonna have a trio of hotness on the show now instead of just a duo?! I approve, etc.). . .but some things about it are bugging me. Is it just me? If anyone wants more thoughts, I'll share. For now, I've talked to myself enough!

I miss y'all!
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"Decapitations aren't my idea of a good time, I guess." --Sammy, "Bloodlust"

tatis98 · OUTTA PRACTICE Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 23

Hi there!

It's been a long summer without reading anything from all of you. It's been even longer waiting for Dean to come out of hell somehow and I'm not sure I really like this episode that much. I agree with you that the way he crawled out of the grave was great and his meeting with Bobby and up to som extent his reunion with Sam. But all the angel stuff bugs me: how is it gonna be now? Eternal fight between good and evil, God/Lucifer, simbolized in the brothers? I may sign out of it.

I always found it weird that there was always evil staff and no "good" beigns will come by the Winchesters. There's a lot of folk lore regarding protective spirits that wasn't explored. I don't know I like the creepy stuff more than the religious one.

For that matter what is the angel doing hurting innocent people? The psychic, the possesed waitress... Shouldn't he be showing some mercy? Or is the show getting old testament and demanding "an eye for an eye"? (Literally in this case.)

Oh! Ruby. I'm glad she's still around, though Katie Cassidy had a more diabolic look, Genoveve Cortese is kinda sweet for a demon. I don't buy much her new sympathy towards the boys, all her "I don't want to get between you two".

I'm kind of two minds regarding Sam exploring his gift, I like that he's using it to fight demons. But on the other hand, he was out of character when he checked the waitress pulse and he saw he had killed her, kind of "crap, she's dead, oh well gotta keep trying see if I can do it without killing them next time [Sam shrugs]". Are we going to see evil Sam?

I have to many questions and I guess I'll have to see the episode again in some time and check with new eyes what I have seen.

I hope that some of the usual posters will come around to share their opinions 'cos I really enjoy reading some of the analysis made of the episodes.

See ya!

ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

HI, tatis98! Good to "see" you!

I thought, as I said, cyber Croatoan had happened!

Right off the bat, you hit on my major problem with the show. I know, I know, we've had demons for a while now, so why not the other half? Quite frankly, I've never been all that thrilled with it, but they didn't in the beginning come right out and say demons are exactly as the Bible says and all the biblical stuff is true, etc. etc. I thought there were more possibilities with it. Like you said, is this gonna be all religious now? I can deal with it. I won't stop watching, unless it gets absolutely ridiculous somehow, but I mean, what's next, then? Are we gonna get an ep. where the boys get baptized and then one where they start going to church? Is this gonna be the 700 Club Supernatural style? And if not, why not? I mean, I kinda can't help but be of the mind that if some of the Bible is true, then doesn't it all have to be? Just how are they gonna explore all this? I just. . .I dunno. This is a path I was hoping they didn't take. And there's just so much room for contradictions and absurdities (Ooh, and controversy! As if there isn't enough of THAT with us fans, right?! They gotta bring the #1 most controversial thing ever--religion--into it!).

The angel thing didn't make much sense. First, he didn't intentionally hurt anyone. He said that his true form is just unendurable for most humans. He warned the psychic; she didn't heed. Who knows how it went down for the demons. I don't remember the Bible saying anything about an angel's "true form" being unendurable to humans (although I wouldn't want to see a giant, multiple-faced, multiple-winged, fiery-eyed being, I must say!), but even if it did; that's. . . silly. And if the angel or God or whoever could heal all of Dean's other horrible wounds, why would that burn mark have to endure? Just to look cool? Doesn't make sense that all that could be healed, but that mark had to be left behind. I'm guessing it's something intentional; a badge of some kind, so to speak; Dean's marked for others (demons? Other angels? Both? Something else?) to see down the line to know what side he's on and/or who he is, I guess. Weird. And I just hate the whole faith thing. Sorry if that offends anyone; but that's how I feel. Dean's lack of faith was always one of the things I identified with and loved about the guy. Now that's all gone. Sad

I mean, I always loved that our guys were just guys. Regular people doing wonderful things. And now Dean's been literally touched by an angel? He's God's appointed wonder boy? Sad

I don't know, man.

And, oh, Sammy's powers. Where do I begin? I do still have a fragment of hope that his powers are NOT evil. I still think it's possible they're not, but the bad side wants to use them for evil purposes. What I'm wishing would happen would be that Dean tells Sam about the angel (what the fudge was his name? Castiel?) and then Sam could consult the angel about his powers and kick Ruby to the curb. And I still don't trust Ruby. A good demon? I don't know. I hope Sammy really is being wary and thinking for himself more than listening to Ruby. Also, I don't think Sammy's powers (I'm sorry, but Sammy looked a tad goofy or odd when he used them) killed the waitress; I'm sure the demon had already done that. Remember? They tend to leave bodies, in Ruby's words, "rode hard and put up wet?" But what did disturb me is the way both our boys dealt with the possessed. They (esp. Sammy) used to seem highly aware of the human being possessed and want to help them; exorcise them. In this ep., they just walked away (after Dean slapped the hell outta one, no less! Didn't seem the least bit sorry of the pain caused the original owner of the body!); no plans whatsoever to help those people. I know they were outnumbered, but in the past, they'd have made a plan to at least try to help them. They could've pulled a trick like the police station one or something. But, no, they just had their chat with the demons inside and left those poor people to their fate! What?! Who are these guys?! Sammy, esp.? He's always been so sensitive and caring about people and it's what I loved most about him. Seriously, it will screw up the show big time for me if they're intending to make his core personality change for real and for good. I've mentioned that before and it still stands. It seems to me that Eric and Jared are loving the idea of an "evil" Sammy. I guess Eric thinks it's "cool" and Jared's loving the idea of playing it (which I understand). But I don't think it's actually a smart move for the SHOW. For the FANS. We, unless I'm sadly mistaking the posts I've read over the years, LOVE Sammy. For his wonderful personality. Do they really think majorly transforming him is a good idea?! That the majority of us fans want to see that? Cuz I don't. Getting harder edged (as long as they don't go too far with it)? Fine. Getting darker/more John-like? Fine. But to totally flip him into an evil person; someone we don't know and don't want to know? NO.

I also don't like the idea, at all, of our guys warring against each other in anyway. If their relationship dynamic has to undergo a few changes, that's intriguing and fine. But to totally change? Where we don't recognize it anymore? Where they're not super close and best friends anymore? NO. So, I'm not actually complaining at this point. I don't know how it's going to play out; and, so far, the writers have always given me reason to trust them. I'm just saying I'm worried about where the show may be headed. Frankly, I prefer the road-trip-M.O.T.W. vibe the show started with. The whole Armageddon thing is tricky to me. I can't imagine stopping watching the show. But I can imagine it turning into something that's a ludicrous shadow of its former self that makes me sadly shake my head when I do watch it. Making changes to the core personalities of either of our boys would be the biggest mistake they could make. Second biggest, major changes to their basic relationship with one another. Third biggest, handling this Armageddon business all wrong.

One other note: It's sad that times have changed to the point that two brothers after having been through hell and not seeing each other in a long time can't give each other a proper hug without someone cracking a gay joke. It's getting old.

Positives, though: This ep. was exciting and interesting throughout; Although I prefer Katie-Ruby, I don't mind new-Ruby. This new Ruby may not stick around long, anyway. They may have her jumping from body to body. Katie-Ruby I could take or leave as it was, so same with the new one; Is it just me or is Castiel good-looking?; How wonderful was our smart Bobby making ABSOLUTELY sure Dean was Dean? The holy water splash alone was priceless. More Bobby, please; I was definitely left anxious and wanting more. I just hope I don't end up disappointed.

Sorry that got long, but this is ME; what'd ya expect? Come on back, everyone; come home. Discuss!
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tatis98 · OUTTA PRACTICE Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 23

Hi there!

It took me a while to download the lastest episodes and get to watch them. Sometimes it is so difficult to be a fan of Supernatural outside the USA... I'm whining but sometimes it feels it takes forever for emule to download Supernatural.

I guess I'm more relieved now, after watching "Are you there God..." I realised it's not a fight betwen good and evil symbolized in the two brothers, but and all traditional fight with humans, in particular hunters, and our Winchesters "smacked in the middle of it" as Bobby will put it (I'm not sure if that's the right spelling but bear with me). Although the idea of the Apocalypse and letting Lucifer free is still too close to religion for my likings, I guess I can stand it if we have more episodes like "Metamorphose", a bit gory and with weird creatures I've never heard of. I also liked the fact that Castiel is not the fluffy angel Michael Landon style, and that Dean is not more than an instrument to him.

Extra cookie, I also identified with Dean lack of faith, and it was good that he kept it, and it also was very into his character that idea of him being only a regular guy not to have done anything to be special.

"In the beginning" was good too, the only thing that bothered me from that episode was the casting of the younger versions of Mary and John. Really, people change a lot in ten years but it looked more like twenty years have passed in between this episode and the pilot. Mitch Pileggi was good. I really liked him from X-files.

I absolute agree with you in these three things:

Castiel is one good-looking guy.

More and more Bobby, please.

And the water splashing scene was one of the greatest I've seen. Damn good!

I'm not as dissapointed as I was in my previous post, and I don't thin I would have been able to stop watching the show that easily.

CyberCroatoan was back but here is my little bit to help fill the void.

Wink

ExtraCookie · NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 269

Cool, it's my fellow Croatoan survivor! We must never tell the world what happened to the others; they wouldn't understand. Wink

Har.

I've been loving this season. I'm still worried as hell about where they're heading with all this Armageddon stuff, but I can't deny they're keeping me totally intrigued and thinking! This is definitely the most nail-biting season so far. I didn't care much for "Monster Movie," but that probably would surprise no one here. I don't care much for the eps. that go THAT far outside of reality. I didn't hate it; it definitely had its charm. I hate black and white, but I can forgive that for Supernatural. Not a classic monster movie fan, either. And, even though they annoyingly took me out of a "realistic" feel, I loved the old-time movie effects; esp. the kaleidoscopic spinning glass when Dean was drugged. AND, thanks to that ep., I have something I can think of that can make me laugh almost any time, any place, probably forever: Dean in lederhosen! Oh my God, if he can't pull that look off, no one can. So, no one can. Laughing

Hilarious! "Hey there, Hansel!" HA! (Ya know what, though? Sam in lederhosen would've been even funnier, as tall as he is!) Dean telling that girl about his "misson from God" was a bit much, though. Felt kind of soap operaish.

"Metamorphosis" was a weaker ep. to me, too (better than "Monster Movie," though), but I still enjoyed it. Except I don't know if I can ever go near hamburger meat again now. I wasn't fond of it anyway, but now. . . *shudder* And a question: Our boys break down doors all the time; even main entrance doors that are locked. And Sammy couldn't kick his way out of a bedroom closet?! Am I missing something? Did it have a panic room door or something?!

Just loved "In the Beginning." I thought they did a great job of casting John and Mary (though I'm very disappointed we saw so little of John). But now that you mention it, you're right; they did seem a little young! Oh, well. Oh, Mary kissing "her dad" was so gross.

Castiel is a great character so far (and I swear I'm not just saying that cuz he's hot!). Yes, as you pretty much said: Finally, an angel accurately depicted! Where DID people get this idea of fluffy, white-robed, beautiful human-looking angels, anyway?! The way angels are described in the Bible, they're nothing I'd ever want to encounter! I actually hope Dean doesn't show Castiel too much respect too soon or all the time, because him talking to Castiel as though he could take him in a fight is pretty hilarious; loved his expression when he realized he'd just threatened an angel. And Castiel's patient, calm actions/expressions that say he's so powerful he's not very bothered by his attitude is awesome too. (I LOVED the way he sighed, threw his hands up and turned his head to the side when he tried to tell Dean about the Lord's "mysterious ways!" That was great!) I'd love an ep. in which we get to meet his host. It'd be interesting to meet a guy who was so devout he asked to be occupied by an angel. Misha seems to be an excellent actor so far; this'd be his chance to show off his range to his new fans.

Next ep. looks great. I miss having smart, polite people to talk about them with here! Glad at least one's still hanging around! We've been abandoned. Sad

Shutting up now.
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Sarah

Just kidding guys. BUT. These ARE my opinions.
First of all, I want to apologise profusely for being a shoddy mod. I know I haven't been around. I know I suck. Thing is, I'm a don in residence this year and between that and schoolwork, my online life has most definitely suffered. I'm going to make an effort to pick up this thread again starting with this week's episode (which looks like it'll be awesome!).

Ladies. The love that I have for season 4. It is silly big. Seriously. I love the lighting, the music, the plot arc, the boys (even if they're w00bie!), the jokes, the everything.

4x01
I honestly think that was one of the best season openers we've had yet. I mean, I enjoyed last year's, but this one hit that one out of the park.
Things of note:
- THE RECAP. That song choice was AWESOME. I love that AC/DC loves our show and is willing to let us use what I'm sure is a pricey song. And the recap itself was really pretty fabulous.

- The new title! The ravens fluttering across the screen in a chaotic mass of sound and flickering blackness is, in my opinion, pretty creepy. At first, I wasn't sure if I loved it because it was such a deviation from their previous titles, but it's grown on me.

- Dean digging himself out of his grave. That was very cool. Hell, I thought it was cool when Buffy did it and this was a huge call-back to that for me. I like that they made it their own, though. And also? Jensen lying there, looking up at the sun? Beautiful.

- HA to Dean stealing the Busty Asians magazine in the fill-up joint. And mmmmm Jensen's belly. That was hot. And the fact that his only markings are the hand-print burn and the tattoo, linking him only to Castiel and Sam, is very awesome. And hot. Don't ask me why. I was very confused about the whole high-pitched noise thing. That hurt. And seemed random. But obviously, made TONNES of sense later! (And totally reminded me of Alan Rickman's portrayal of the Metatron!)

- BOBBY.

- DEAN'S EXPRESSION WHEN THE WATER. IN THE FACE. AND THE SPITTING. LOL

- Dean knowing what name Sam would use. And saying "You kidding me? What don't I know about that kid?" *_*

- THE FUCKING BROTHER HUG. 25 SECONDS! YES, I COUNTED! AND THERE WAS GRASPING! AND EYE-CLOSING! AND NUZZLING! AND IT WAS MUTUAL!

- Dean getting all up in Sammy's face about bringing him back and Sammy apologising. *heart hurts*

- THE RETURN OF THE AMULET. *_*

- Dean getting the Impala back. I laughed SO HARD. Seriously. That whole scene was just epic. And the insertion of Jason Manns LOL. <3 Oh, boys.

- Pamela. That whole scene. Just...I love her. And she wanted a threesome with them! And Sam looked so amused and intrigued! And oh my god. That whole dsfj;asldfjk;asldkfj

- The eyes! Gross, scary, poor Pamela, but we got HOLDING HANDS and also we got a kickass character added!

- The diner scene was interesting in that it used to be Sam everyone knew and was sort of afraid of, and now we have evidence that something went down that was big enough to make Dean a big player. I felt a little squirmy that he was hitting that woman around, though. Like...a lot squirmy.

- I am SO SAD that the brothers are lying to each other. And SADDER that at least Dean then tells Sam everything, whereas Sam keeps WITHHOLDING secrets until Dean finds out on his own. And his are BIG WHOPPERS. Sad

- Castiel. I love Castiel. I think Mischa's doing an awesome job and I love the introduction of angels. A lot of people have expressed discomfort with the religious turn the show's taken, but...dudes. It had religious tones as of 1x04 when they first introduced a demon. And I hate to break it to people, but it's not just a Christian layout because the "god" they refer to happens to be a Judeo-Christian-Islamic god. And we've already seen that the Pagan gods exist, as well, so that in no way rules out all the other belief structures in the world. And DUDES. Dean is like...THE CHOSEN ONE. I just hope that this doesn't totally pit the brothers against each other in that whole "one must die for the other to live" way.

- Sam's powers. I actually thought it was awesome that he'd learned to control demons so that he could exorcise them and save the victims. I saw no problem with that, personally.

- Ruby. Um. I dunno how I feel about her. She's...quiet. And no at all like Katie Cassidy's Ruby. I don't know if it's a result of being thrown back to the pit or the influence of her new meatsuit, but...she's softer. Less threatening. I dunno.

4x02
- Nice little teaser. A hunter ending up killed by ghosts? Interesting.

- The argument about angels! "All I know is I was not GROPED by an angel!" "One with a little less fairy dust on it, please!" Sammy's bitchface! Also, Dean once again looked hot. I like it when he's not wearing the outer button-up.

- BOBBY. "Airlift your ass outta the hotbox?" AND THE STACK OF BOOKS.

- And Sam looked so smug, haha. "Okay look, I know you're not all choirboy about this stuff..." "Okay, well, too bad Dean because I think he wants you to strap on your party hat."

- Awwwww Dean. "Proof? Proof that there's a god out there that actually gives a crap about me? Personally? I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it!" AND THEN SAD!DEAN FACE. Crying or Very sad

"Because why me? If there's a god out there, why would he give a CRAP about me? I mean, I've saved some people, okay. I figured that made up for the -- for the stealing and the -- and the ditching chicks, but why do I deserve to get saved? I'm just a regular guy! ... Well, that creeps me out. I don't like getting singled out at birthday parties, much less by...god."
MORE PROOF THAT DEAN HAS LOW SELF ESTEEM. Crying or Very sad

- "You're gonna get me some pie." And the whole running pie thing after that, too! *snicker*

- Ruby's all freaked out, huh? I feel almost bad for her. And oh man, that's when I started wondering about Sam. When she said "Watch yourself" and he was all "I'm not scared of angels" and she just LOOKED at him. I was like "OMG. WHAT'D YOU DO TO HIM? MEEP!"

- Ew, gore. Lots of gore. Ugh.

- Awww Dean all sleepy in the car. *_* And DUDE. I love Henrickson and that whole scene in the bathroom. He was always such a good actor. His facial expressions and how he can change his tone on a dime? Yeah! But ewwww what is with all the nasty NASTY public restrooms? I mean, I know they're never sparkling clean but I've NEVER been in one that bad. EVER. Are they really that gross in the States? Also, nice effect there when Dean shot him. But sometimes I really hate how they have to FEED us the pertinent information -- like with the seal on his hand. Neutral

- Bobby needs to decreepify his house. Also creepy? CHILDREN. Those little girls were messed. TOTALLY reminded me of The Shining when he turns the corner on his tricycle and those twins are at the end of the hall in matching dresses. And WHAT'S WITH LITTLE CHILDREN IN MATCHING FORMAL DRESS IN THIS SHOW?

- Aw, Dean looking out for his baby brother.

- MEG. I love Meg. You guys know I love Meg, right? MEG. And to hear her backstory was really intriguing. Dean clearly did feel bad about letting her die. Which gives us a new layer of insight about how much he doesn't talk about things, considering at the time she died, he was more concerned with getting information about his dad than saving her.

- Bobby's PANIC ROOM. *dead* That was amazing. And how he was all "I had a weekend off." And the POSTER.

- Wow, did Dean ever sound like my brother there with his ideas about god vs no god. Except Bren worded it like this: "If god does exist, he's a sick bastard." lol

- I love the Dean reaction vs the Sam reaction to the apocalypse.
Sam: Omg! What do we do?
Dean: Road trip. Star Trek experience. BUNNY RANCH.

- Arnold! Dean's popped collar! The meetings with everyone were really effective. Especially Sam and Meg, and Dean and Victor. I appreciated that Meg brought up the issue of Ruby. However, I like to think that since she didn't bring up Sam sleeping with Ruby, he's not. Because I think she would've. Therefore, I'm going to believe (until told otherwise) that Sam would not be a big enough douchebag to rape the body of a possessed woman.

- Sam: "You alright?" Dean: "No." (heh)

- Thought Dean diving for the bowl was a little cheesy. *snicker*

- Sam and Dean slumber party! *_* Also loved the chitchat with Dean and Castiel. Very nice. Like the revelation of the direction the story will take this season. 66 seals, huh? Interesting!

4x03
- Sam needs to STOP SNEAKING OUT. Sad

- Castiel watching Dean sleep? A little creepy. Asking what he was dreaming out? Creepier still.

- Oh angels. So enigmatic. And then POOF he's in the past. That is so cool. I like all the little 70s touches.

- I love how their casting of young!John proves yet again that Dean takes after Mary and Sam takes after John. All that dark hair and the blue eyes... But it's funny, Jensen actually did look a little like the actor. And you can see how Jared would a bit, too. The pointier nose and chin. /random physical observations
And I loved that they mentioned his stint in the war. And how the neighbours knew him, that was cute. And Dean's reactions throughout that first scene were just amazing. So

AND THE CELLPHONE. USS ENTERPRISE. LULZ.

- DEAN CHOSE THE IMPALA. HYSTERICAL. AND BRILLIANT. AND OH WOW, WORST TIME-TRAVELER EVER.

- DEAN IN THAT TINY CAR. *snerk*

- Mary's like a 70s pin-up girl! And haha Dean noticed. How awkward. They're not allowed to complain about Wincest anymore. This episode was full of it. And awwwww seeing Mary/John at the beginning. That was sweet. And the fact that SHE turned out to be the kick-ass hunter? YES! I swear I mentioned something along these lines before. I was totally unsurprised. In fact, I was expecting it. w00t! I liked her charm bracelet. And her jacket.

- SAMUEL AND DEANA. DEAN WAS NAMED AFTER HIS NANNY. *ROFL* MARVELOUS.

- "Did you find anything on the web? Of...information that you have assembled." af;lkjsf;lasfjk hehe

- I love it when Dean dresses up like a priest. He looks so good in all that black. And HA "My dad could see the future." His excuses are so on-the-spot.

- "Doesn't matter what your dad thinks, I like that John kid. Yeah, yeah I think you two are meant to be. Hell, I'm depending on it." Laughing

It was really cute that she was so excited to get engaged to John. And Dean was so cutely encouraging and curious and sweet with her. As always. He just adores his mom, huh? She makes him turn right back into a little boy, mannerisms, smile and all.

But then. Oh my...THEN. When she was all "I wanna get out" and you realise that WOW Sam was like his mom. And Dean's FACE as he realises the same thing. And then she says that the very worst thing she could think of was for her children to be raised into hunting... and his FACE. And she may as well have stabbed him in his fragile little heart. That's like...that's like his mom, the woman he's held above all others his whole life, telling him that she doesn't like/approve of him. And he starts CRYING and OH. I BROKE. *SOB* And then he tries to SAVE HER even though he's CRYING. And she's looking at him like he's CRAZY. And...as;dlfkj;slafjk

- Castiel needs to stop sneaking up on people! And ouch, "Sam's not looking for you" that hurts. Castiel needs to study his charges more closely so he doesn't keep stabbing their itty bitty hearts out.

- Young Daniel Elkins! Very Happy

Grandpa Campbell is a very confused daddy. "She wants to hunt, she doesn't wanna hunt. Is this some female time of month thing?"

- When Azazel left that one guy's body and went into the vent and then Samuel came outside after them, I knew he was possessed. I was shouting at the screen. >.<

- John promised to run away with her. *sniffle* As soon as she said that, I knew her parents were going to kick the bucket. Why else would she stay in Lawrence without John ever knowing she was a hunter?

- Dean's explanation of everything! And then, just like with John, knowing that when Samuel asked for the Colt, he wasn't Samuel anymore. And the actor (who's name I can't remember how to spell) was a fantastic Azazel. He had a lot of the same mannerisms down as Fred Lehne. I really enjoyed his performance. Topnotch! Also, that scene where he strides after Deana into the kitchen and snaps her neck...was uncomfortably reminiscent of many domestic abuse scenes you see in movies and TV. Sad

- Aw, Dean proposes! And the interruption-death-deal-revival was a;lsdfjk;sljsd I was like "MARY! NO!" Except for how if she hadn't, we wouldn't have a SHOW. Sad

- The most objectionable thing about that scene? That her "father" was making out with her. Ugh. And I just wrote a paper on the issue of rape in feminist fiction, with an emphasis on father-daughter situations. *shudder*

- Wow. Okay. Angels are after Sam. Demons are after Sam. Surprised

Just goin' out on a limb here, but...this does not bode well for Sam.

4x04 and 4x05 tomorrow! I'm tired! <3