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chasingangel82 KINDA LIKE RIDIN' A BIKE

Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 189
Location: I'm wherever Jensen is, biting his bottom lip!!
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Dean...... what do you love about him??? |
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Okay so I started to feel sorry for Dean, because well he didnt have a thread yet, so of course I made him one.
What I want to know though, why do you love him? 
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Gauntlets_Angel NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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*laughs hysterically* An easier question would've been 'what don't you love about him?' _________________
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chasingangel82 KINDA LIKE RIDIN' A BIKE

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Hehe well then what dont you love about him?  |
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Verudellita WORKIN' MY OWN GIG

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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*definitely inocent* I hate him saying Yes sir. That's the time I always want to kick his ass. That's the first bad thing I always remember.
*seriously*  _________________
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ExtraCookie NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: Ahhh Dean |
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True, asking what I don't love about him would be easier. But first, some of what I do: He's a complex person who tries to pass for a simple one. He's deep and sensitive; in some ways, more so than Sammy, he just tries to hide it. He's cool, of course. He's a smartass (me too, so I really click with that!). He's funny. He wears a black leather jacket (heh heh). He's clever and smart, has fantastic instincts. He's brave and always willing to risk his life for another's. I love the way he talks. He's a badass, but in a good way. I love the way he fights and uses weapons (his first fight with Gordon was the best! And my jaw dropped at how fast he drew his gun in "Croatoan!"). It's a weird/sick thing to say, I guess, but I can't help but love (or maybe it's just be touched by) how vulnerable and dependent upon his family (which is now comprised of only Sammy) he is. That's not a *good* thing, I guess, but it is an intriguing, touching thing. (And, yes, the dependent upon his family thing is good, because it shows a capacity for deep love.) He can say more with one look than many can say with several sentences. (Jensen's to thank for that, of course, but Supernatural takes advantage of it for Dean well.) His tough-guy, "no chick-flick moments," "Oh, God, kill me now" persona is fantastic. (Whoever wrote his character like that is smart. A lot of people who come off like that are actually more sensitive than the rest; they use that insensitive persona as a defense mechanism. Very cool.) He's great with kids. He knows how to handle Sammy. He takes care of business. He'd do damned near anything for his family. He comes on strong with the ladies but when they actually give him (meaningful) attention, he tends to get flustered (God, that's super cute! I love watching this in "Dead in the Water" and "Faith.") He practices the art of being gleefully aggravating (poor Sammy! But it's so fun for us!). He knows his pop culture! He's no geek; he's one of us. I love the way he yells "SAM/SAMMY!" when he can't find him/doesn't know if he's OK. OK, obviously, I could go on. So, on to answer the other question . . .
He's exactly the kind of guy who is dangerous to a lot of women (me included)--the kind who has issues that aren't his fault. The kind who needs "saving." The kind who, if you fell in love with him and stood by him, would probably put you (unintentionally) through all kinds of hell. (Cassie got a taste of that.) And you'd either be lucky enough to have won a prize at the end or be as messed up as he is! I'd like to think the former would happen, but I don't know. . . our Dean's pretty messed up! But would a lot of us go for it anyway? YEAH. Of course. He's a truly good person with the best of intentions who's done a lot of good things. He's worth the effort. (Cassie was a wuss for bowing out!) He's bottled up and getting him to talk about anything deep is like pulling teeth, and he tends to push you away, hard, if you try. That's maddening. He's too passionate at times (lets loose that sharp tongue and he HIT Sammy, damn it!). Hm, other than the fact that he's so gorgeous and flirty you'd probably be constantly jealous if he was your man, I can't think of anything else I don't love! And the things I don't love aren't even his fault, so there!  _________________ "Decapitations aren't my idea of a good time, I guess." --Sammy, "Bloodlust" |
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Husitka DUDE, I EARNED THAT MONEY

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 636
Location: New York 3007, Major Gabriel Blade's apartment
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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It would be really easier to say what I don't love about Dean.
I think Dean Winchester is one of the best TV show/movie characters I've seen so far. He's a 3-dimensional, multi-layered, interesting, appealing, he has some flaws and weaknesses that make him a believable, living, breathing character and these flaws and weaknesses make him even more appealing for viewers.
I love his snarky humour, his one-liners, his "street-and-life smartness", how much he cares about his family, him hiding his emotions behind his humour and sarcasm, his facial expressions, his tough-guy attitude and his true golden heart.
I'm always so moved when Dean feels pain, when he's sad and a bit lost. Dean Winchester is in fact the first TV show/movie character I've fallen in love with. And it doesn't hurt that he's impersonated by my favourite actor either. _________________
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Sarah TRANSCENDENTAL SIGNIFIED

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 478
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Ahhh Dean |
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| ExtraCookie wrote: | | True, asking what I don't love about him would be easier. But first, some of what I do: He's a complex person who tries to pass for a simple one. He's deep and sensitive; in some ways, more so than Sammy, he just tries to hide it. |
SO agreed. I love that about Dean. He tries to come off as this uncomplicated man with simple needs: the hunt, sex and booze. But one scene I really love that shows us exactly what we all know -- that Dean IS deep and sensitive and trying to hide it -- is at the end of Nightmare. (majorly paraphrased)
Dean: I know what we have to do about your powers. I know where we have to go.
Sam: ...what? Where?
Dean: *grin* Vegas.
Sam: *bitchface*
Dean: C'mon man, we'd clean up!
Sam: *stomps out*
Dean: *drops the grin and watches after him with a worried look on his face*
He's just so...guh. He's a really emotional guy and I think a lot of people don't get that. I always read fic where he refuses to talk about his feelings or is a total hard-ass, etc. But he's the one who went around the building to cry in Home and who begged Sam with tears in his eyes to be a family again in Shadow. You know?
| Quote: | | He's cool, of course. He's a smartass (me too, so I really click with that!). He's funny. He wears a black leather jacket (heh heh). He's clever and smart, has fantastic instincts. He's brave and always willing to risk his life for another's. I love the way he talks. He's a badass, but in a good way. |
*snuggles him* It's so weird -- most guys I know in real life that do nothing but drink, sleep with random girls and cuss...you have them as friends, but there's always this affectionate disapproval that accompanies that feeling of companionship. And with Dean, I just find him endearing. What IS that? *laughs*
| Quote: | | It's a weird/sick thing to say, I guess, but I can't help but love (or maybe it's just be touched by) how vulnerable and dependent upon his family (which is now comprised of only Sammy) he is. That's not a *good* thing, I guess, but it is an intriguing, touching thing. (And, yes, the dependent upon his family thing is good, because it shows a capacity for deep love.) |
YES. A true family man. Then again, everyone is pretty dependent on something or someone. And for Dean, all he's ever had was his parents, Sam and the hunt. So now it's down to Sam. The cool thing now is that with everyone else gone, Sam's said more than once that Dean is also the only thing he has. They've always been, obviously, the most important people in each other's lives. And I've said this elsewhere, but I think that can happen with regular siblings in real life too. I mean, I know I can count on my brother to back me up, support me, keep a secret, help me out, whatever...no matter what. And vice versa. Even more than parents sometimes. Because siblings are FRIENDS too, you know? Whereas parents have to be the bad guys once in a while, and they've got that whole "whatever they do reflects on us somehow" mentality. Whereas with siblings, they grow up together, are closer genetically than anyone else (even with parents, because while they have half from each parent, usually they have more than half in common with each other), become friends, and are used to depending on each other without that authority complex.
| Quote: | | He can say more with one look than many can say with several sentences. (Jensen's to thank for that, of course, but Supernatural takes advantage of it for Dean well.) |
Jensen is like...my hero. His facial expressions just...guh. He's awesome.
| Quote: | | He's great with kids. He knows how to handle Sammy. |
I always thought is was weird in Dead in the Water when Sam said "You don't even LIKE kids." And Dean responded "I love kids!" To which Sam asked him to name three children he even knew.
Why?
Well because he RAISED Sam. *laughs* Where was Sam the whole time that he WAS A KID? So I was really confused when Sam was confused that Dean would be so good with kids. I mean, c'mon dude. Tap into your memory.
| Quote: | | He's exactly the kind of guy who is dangerous to a lot of women (me included)--the kind who has issues that aren't his fault. The kind who needs "saving." The kind who, if you fell in love with him and stood by him, would probably put you (unintentionally) through all kinds of hell. |
Totally. And he's also the kind of guy where you'd probably play second fiddle to his little brother. Imagine trying to come between these two. Sure, they adapt and flow pretty easily when a girl shows up for one or the other, but even then, they're constantly together, constantly leaving the girl to go back to each other, etc. I can see Sam or Dean getting hitched and settling down in a house with 2.5 kids who absolutely ADORE Uncle Sam or Dean who is around really REALLY often. And the wife having to adjust to being married to two men, essentially.
| Quote: | | He's worth the effort. (Cassie was a wuss for bowing out!) |
*waves "I Hate Cassie" flag* Man, I wanted to deck her when she told she thought it was what he wanted. And again when she said she didn't see much hope for them. His expression both times...ARG. *keelz her* |
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Husitka DUDE, I EARNED THAT MONEY

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Ahhh Dean |
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| Sarah wrote: | | ExtraCookie wrote: | | He can say more with one look than many can say with several sentences. (Jensen's to thank for that, of course, but Supernatural takes advantage of it for Dean well.) |
Jensen is like...my hero. His facial expressions just...guh. He's awesome. |
God! I think he should have a copyright on his facial expressions!!! This ability is such a gift for an actor. _________________
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Husitka DUDE, I EARNED THAT MONEY

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I love his unselfish love towards his family, no matter the situation. And I must agree with whomever wrote it: Dean is a very complex, deep person who is quite often taken for a simple one (the most often for a smartass or ladies' man). It sometimes looks like it's his intention to be taken for this. Maybe it helps him cope with everything he has to go through better. _________________
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ExtraCookie NO CHICKFLICK MOMENTS

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: Yeah and stuff |
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I guess the reason Sammy didn't think Dean even liked kids is because, even though Dean at least half-raised him (& clearly did an amazing job--way to go, Dean!), Sammy was seeing that from the inside. Just so used to Dean being a second dad/brother; just didn't think of it that way; didn't notice. Also, I'm guessing the kids we've seen them encounter may be the first ones they've been involved with directly. Remember, before the events of the pilot, John apparently went on all hunts with them (remember Sammy being surprised John let Dean go on one by himself in the pilot? "I'm 26, dude!" ). So, maybe John was the one usually dealing with the kids and everyone else then. (Or, if Dean or Sammy did get to now and then, the other bro. was probably off handling another aspect of the hunt.) The moments with kids we've seen are probably the first ones Dean's ever had a chance to step up and connect with the kid (at least where Sammy could notice). He's been a natural all along but, since Sammy was the only kid he could display those talents with (and that's been a while!) and he is just so used to him, he didn't notice. Damn my lack of eloquence! Did that make any sense?!
And yes, to the poster who said Dean seems to try to hide his depth and complexity in order to cope--agreed. It also helps him in other ways--people see him as a more simple person and are more at ease and let things slip around him. AND it makes him come off as less of a threat to supernatural beings (probably at least one of the reasons the yellow-eyed demon proclaimed him not to be a threat). Dean let's people (and creatures) think there's not so much going on in that handsome, carefree head--then--surprise!! Smart boy!
And, Sarah, if you were Dean's woman, you'd actually be playing *third* fiddle--remember the Impala?! Yeah. There'd be a lot of competition for his attentions and affections!! I can just imagine the fights: "You care more about that damned CAR than me!!" (I think it'd be cool to see a scene where he had to choose between saving the Impala and saving Sammy. Of course he'd save Sammy, but can you imagine the comical, agonized expressions and groans?!) Dean--easy to love, difficult to be in a relationship with!!! *SIGH*
Ah, now! Hate Cassie? Come on, we don't really *know* her. Dean thought she was pretty great and I trust his judgment! Maybe she has a lot of other complications in life which caused her to feel she couldn't handle any more. Hey, I think a lot of women prefer someone in their lives who is pretty "normal." Especially if we have a lot of other complications going on. Maybe she needs a man who's rock steady and dependable and without emotional baggage (Dean's wonderful, but you can't apply any of those descriptions to him. He's troubled, has lots of emotional baggage and issues and travels the country working a freaky, dangerous job!). I can't blame a person for that. It doesn't change the fact I think she was a wuss for bowing out, though, because she bowed out so easily and quickly! THAT'S what I hate. He opened his vault of a heart to her and she basically instantly said, "Yikes! I'm outta here!" Instantly thinking he must want out of the relationship so badly (maybe she has self-esteem issues??) that he was willing to scare her away. (Now, how could anyone look into those soulful eyes of his & listen to that voice and not realize that, at the very least, he believed what he was saying was true? If it were me, I'd, at worst, think "Wow, bless his heart, he's delusional! I'm going to help him!") He actually did it AGAIN and let her know that it hurt him when she reacted the way she had the first time and she still (even after knowing for a fact that the crazy stuff he'd told her was true) bowed out, basically saying "Yeah, again--NO. I need a normal guy." It's OK to come to such a conclusion after a lot of soul searching, thought and effort. But she didn't do that. But even then, Dean didn't close the door! He said so confidently that he'll see her again. Yet another thing about Dean to love--once he loves you, he holds on, would do anything for you and won't just give up on you (even if you give up on him, apparently!). I reserve actual hatred of Cassie until and unless I get to know her better. (Again, Dean's smart. If he thinks she's great, she probably is! And I liked their chemistry for the most part.) But she's still a wuss who wasn't smart enough to even try to hold on to something (obviously) wonderful when she had the chance! Hate her, no. Think she made a stupid, wussy mistake that she must surely be kicking herself for? YES!!!! Booo!! You don't just give up on somebody who's worth the effort. You at least think it through. You at least try.
But did someone else damage her in the past? Has she perhaps already been through dating a Dean-like guy who broke her heart? We don't know! (Ah--but perhaps Dean does! Wait and see.) I'll giver her a chance. Just one, damn it! 
_________________ "Decapitations aren't my idea of a good time, I guess." --Sammy, "Bloodlust" |
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